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    I think we’re finally getting the big picture here.

    Because your current itinerary ideas will require an astonishing amount of work by whatever travel agent you end up choosing, I would recommend checking with only two or three different agencies, the first one I would contact would be the one in your country. If they truly have a Florida-specialist who knows their stuff, they would most likely be your best resource. If they can't provide a TA that knows Florida travel really well, then I would select one of the larger US agencies. I think what you are asking would be very time-consuming for a solo or smaller travel agency, the larger ones may be able to help you without working a single agent doing so much work that they are losing money on your account.
    You definitely won’t be able to utilize Disney’s travel agency, because you have portions of your trip that are not Disney-related, and it would make more sense to utilize an agent that can co-ordinate everything for you.

    For help here, Brandie is correct, you’re better off sitting down and writing out a list of questions, then asking them in separate topics within the correct forums.

    It will also be helpful to get a little better grip on what you are planning if you give us the basics as concisely as possible:

    Who you are (who is going, and their ages).
    When you are going (if you know actual dates, that is easiest)
    What you are planning to do (how many days at WDW, how many days at Universal, how many at Busch, etc)
    Where you are wanting to stay (4 days at value, 3 days at mod, 4 days at Concierge-level, etc)

    There are many different "right" answers to the questions you’ve asked so far, and it will be easier for us to help you find the right answer for your family if we can concentrate on each question under its own topic.

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    The one thing that just came to mind is that you might want to contact an Israeli TA with just ONE question. (If you already know the answer, then great...)

    Do Israelis get special rates/tickets for WDW?

    Note that I am NOT talking about one Disney TA vs another Disney TA. What I mean is in the same way that Brits can get really cheap 14-day tickets (14-day tickets... gasp!) with extra perks, is there an Israeli version of this? (Probably not, the British seem to be the only ones to my knowledge, but you never know...)

    If so, then it is probably a given to go with an Israeli TA. The math would probably make it inevitable...

    If it's all the same price whether you book in Israel or here, then it's back to the drawing board - but I agree that a Disney Specialist Israeli TA (if such a thing exists) might still be a better way to go, as far as knowing ALL the practicalities of getting from Israel to WDW. (The counter to that, of course, is that if you run into trouble in WDW, your TA is all the way in a different country, in a different time zone.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandie View Post
    I think part of the concern about your question stems from the fact that you've put your question in the "Official Disney Promotions, Merchandise Sales/Coupons, and More Ways to Save" forum. It looks like your question is "Which TA is going to get me the best price?"

    Now that we know differently, I'd like to direct you to the appropriate forums for your more specific questions:

    Are you trying to plan your itinerary? (What time of the year should I visit? Which days should I go to which parks? Which days should I visit Universal Studio?) Visit the Itinerary Planning forum.

    Are you looking for information about the resorts you've chosen? Or, maybe you'd like some information about staying offsite. Visit the Disney Resorts forum.

    I see you've also got some transportation questions. You'll find some advice in the Transportation To, Around and From forum about getting around the Orlando area. And, if you have questions about getting to Orlando, you can ask them there, too.

    Speaking from experience, the Annual Pass is going to get you the best rate for your room. You won't be able to stack offers (use both the AP discount AND an advertised offer such as Free Dining) but if you feel you need to research this more, you'll want to head over to the Ticket Talk and Package Parley forum.

    You're not there yet, but eventually you'll want to plan your meals so the Disney Restaurants and Quick Service Locations forum will be helpful. Finally, the Theme Park Touring and Strategy forum will help you plan for 22 perfect days. (I'm jealous, by the way.)
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    Hi Brandie,

    First I want to thank you for your recommendations.

    I did saw all these great discussion boards and I sure will use them.

    Right now my main concern is if it's a good idea to cut my split stay with
    a few days on Universal property.

    As I mentioned before we much more prefer POR royal rooms but
    if we can save a lot of money that way and also enjoy first line priorites
    in Universal park(specially with all this Harry Potter fuss) maybe
    It's worth taking it to consideration.

    Anyhow you really don't need to be jelous about our 22 days trip.

    We waited 7 years to get back to Orlando so now that I finally saved
    enough money and we have a great private celebration
    (my daughter 12th birthday) it's about time!!!
    to return to Orlando...and return big time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by whatchadoon View Post
    1. Yes, with going from resort to resort, it will be easier for you to keep a Disney resort on both ends, so you can have Magical Express both ways.

    2. I too misunderstood - I thought it was a "choose one of these three", not "I am staying at all of these three". At that point a value would have given you the best value over 22 days. If you are splitting it, then the total cost becomes much more doable.

    3. I like the idea of the different resorts, as far as you experience the various levels of Disney resorts. As you have a long trip, that is more doable. For me, though, the hassle of packing/unpacking at least three times would be a bummer. Plus that loses time at the parks. It's all what you value, though - I couldn't care where we slept, so the resort was pretty much just a place to shower and sleep. If you want to hang around and enjoy the ambiance of the resort, then of course your calculations would be different.

    4. I don't know if a $19000 budget is tight. I keyed off the fact that in your earlier post (#19) you called it a modest budget, and since I have NO idea how much it even costs to get to WDW from Israel, I have to take that at face value.

    5. Using an annual pass will also get you some sort of discount (not sure how much - I never had an AP). That may make you tend to favour staying at Disney resorts the entire time. You'll have to do the math.

    6. Transfers from WDW resort to resort are free, if memory serves (someone correct me if I am wrong). If you move to offsite, expect to take a taxi to and from. It's not a big issue, but it is a budgetary calculation.

    Don't stress too much... you'll get there...
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    Hello again,

    My older 15 years daughter is very skilled with packing
    and unpacking and she doesn't mind as long as she
    gets so much Disney atmosphere

    So for us a split stay isn't really a problem.

    However giving up POR for a Universal resort with
    all the respect to the luxurious Universal resorts...this creates a major dillema!!!

    Of course there is also a solution of splitting four resorts(AOA,POR,UNIVERSAL,CONT)...
    and spending 5-6 nights at each resort but I think this solution exceeds the budget
    I planned(after all...Universal resorts are not that cheap).

    It's true a trip to Orlando focuses mainly on the theme parks.

    However,this is our second big trip to Orlando and this
    time enjoying resorts and Disney atmosphere
    is not alot less important than visiting the parks(we even
    plan 2 days dedicated to enjoying our resorts and visiting
    other Disney resorts).

    A flight ticket from Israel to Orland costs about 1300$ a person.

    If you add this to calculations I'm sure you'll see not much money
    is left for souvenirs,dininig etc and that's why I wrote my budget
    is modest for a trip like this.

    It's true there are a lot of great table service restaurants on Disney property
    but if we don't get a free dining plan we will probably settle for only
    1-2 character/table meal and eat mostly in quick service counters.

    My biggest comfort is that even if we don't get the chance of enjoying to many
    dining experiances we still have the pamper of the concierge at the Contemporary resort.

    I think this will be a great dessert to a great trip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pfalcioni View Post
    I think we’re finally getting the big picture here.

    Because your current itinerary ideas will require an astonishing amount of work by whatever travel agent you end up choosing, I would recommend checking with only two or three different agencies, the first one I would contact would be the one in your country. If they truly have a Florida-specialist who knows their stuff, they would most likely be your best resource. If they can't provide a TA that knows Florida travel really well, then I would select one of the larger US agencies. I think what you are asking would be very time-consuming for a solo or smaller travel agency, the larger ones may be able to help you without working a single agent doing so much work that they are losing money on your account.
    You definitely won’t be able to utilize Disney’s travel agency, because you have portions of your trip that are not Disney-related, and it would make more sense to utilize an agent that can co-ordinate everything for you.

    For help here, Brandie is correct, you’re better off sitting down and writing out a list of questions, then asking them in separate topics within the correct forums.

    It will also be helpful to get a little better grip on what you are planning if you give us the basics as concisely as possible:

    Who you are (who is going, and their ages).
    When you are going (if you know actual dates, that is easiest)
    What you are planning to do (how many days at WDW, how many days at Universal, how many at Busch, etc)
    Where you are wanting to stay (4 days at value, 3 days at mod, 4 days at Concierge-level, etc)

    There are many different "right" answers to the questions you’ve asked so far, and it will be easier for us to help you find the right answer for your family if we can concentrate on each question under its own topic.
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    I will be happy to answer all the questions you wrote:

    1. 3 persons are going to the trip - me and my 2 daughters(ages 16 and 12 at the time of travel).

    2. I plan the vacation on holidays jewish season next year beacasue
    that's the time my daughters have almost 3 weeks vacation.

    I plan to land in Orlando on the 25th September 2014 and leaving back to ISRAEL
    on the evening of the 16 October 2014.

    3. I plan 14 days in wdw and 8 days other orlando attractions devided as follows:

    4 MK
    3 EPCOT
    2.5 IOA
    1.5 UNIVERSAL
    1 SW
    1 BG
    1 AQ
    1 BLIZZARD
    1 INTERNATIONAL DRIVE
    1 AK
    1 DS
    2 free days at Disney resorts

    I intend to also make use of EMH whenever
    we will have the time and strength

    4. The resorts we want are AOA(little mermaid),POR(royal rooms garden view),CONTEMPORARY(concierge ATRIUM 12 FLOOR MK view) going from
    the value to moderate and leaving 5 nights at disney Contemporary concierge
    for the grand finale.

    to save money we are willing to spend 11 nights at AOA and only 5 each at the other resorts
    but the differnce between AOA and POR is not that big so if
    it will be posiible to take off 1-2 nights from AOA and add them to POR
    of course this would be better.

    I'm not sure I understand how to split my answers to different boards so I wrote them here.

    I will be more than happy to get any good advices\tips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whatchadoon View Post
    The one thing that just came to mind is that you might want to contact an Israeli TA with just ONE question. (If you already know the answer, then great...)

    Do Israelis get special rates/tickets for WDW?

    Note that I am NOT talking about one Disney TA vs another Disney TA. What I mean is in the same way that Brits can get really cheap 14-day tickets (14-day tickets... gasp!) with extra perks, is there an Israeli version of this? (Probably not, the British seem to be the only ones to my knowledge, but you never know...)

    If so, then it is probably a given to go with an Israeli TA. The math would probably make it inevitable...

    If it's all the same price whether you book in Israel or here, then it's back to the drawing board - but I agree that a Disney Specialist Israeli TA (if such a thing exists) might still be a better way to go, as far as knowing ALL the practicalities of getting from Israel to WDW. (The counter to that, of course, is that if you run into trouble in WDW, your TA is all the way in a different country, in a different time zone.)
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    Right now I tend to start with the bigger fish and leave the Israeli TA for last.

    It seems only 2 people run the Israeli TA and I'm not sure they can handle such big and complicated
    request as mine.

    It does makes more sense to start with big TA like Dreams Unlimited and Small world vacations
    and even if nobody there has experiance working with an Israeli tourist
    I think I can manage alone booking my flights.

    There's someone working with me who flys to his daughter in JACKSON Wyoming almost
    twice a year and knows everything about flight tickets from ISRAEL.

    Most important is having a very high skilled TA that can deal with all my request and
    complicated vacation and for this I will need the big ADVP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZEEV View Post
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    3. I plan 14 days in wdw and 8 days other orlando attractions devided as follows:

    4 MK
    3 EPCOT
    2.5 IOA
    1.5 UNIVERSAL
    1 SW
    1 BG
    1 AQ
    1 BLIZZARD
    1 INTERNATIONAL DRIVE
    1 AK
    1 DS
    2 free days at Disney resorts
    By my count, that is 10 days in WDW parks altogether (4 MK, 3 EP, 1 AK, 1 DS, 1 Blizzard).

    If you can "bunch" those 10 days with a 14-day span (regular tickets are good for 14 days from first use), you can get away with a 10 day without park hopper (since I see no split days), at least for your kids. You can add the water park option, but I think for one day at BB a separate BB ticket might be better (not sure about BB stand-alone prices).

    You might want to get the AP for yourself if it gives you good room discounts, but you should be able to save over $300 per child on tickets.

    That's how we did it - SeaWorld & Universal parks first, then WDW all in a row.

    Just a thought, but it might save you a nice chunk of money....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZEEV View Post
    =================Right now I tend to start with the bigger fish and leave the Israeli TA for last.

    It seems only 2 people run the Israeli TA and I'm not sure they can handle such big and complicated
    request as mine.
    I understand. My point is that only an Israeli TA might know if there are country-specific discounts, so you might want to confirm that first.

    Once there is no such thing, it's a level playing field.

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    You are much better off asking ONE question per post and putting it in the correct forum, than putting multiple questions in every post. I'd move on from this thread, and do as Brandie requested.

    And-- I 'd be very sure about eating nothing but CS for 22 days. I'm not a foodie by any stretch, but no way even I could do that.

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    It seems to me that you really haven't actually looked at prices on your own yet when you talk about a modest budget. I just crunched a couple of numbers. Staying at just POR Royal Room Garden View (not even the least expensive of the Royal Rooms) and then moving to the Contemporary for your last days....with budgeting $1500 per flight (figured I might as well pad that....just in case) and $700 for Annual Passes (again....padding).....you end up with $3600 left to spend. Even with tickets to all of your other attractions....that works out to at least $2500 spending money which is a total of $113 per day that you will have to spend on food and souvenirs.

    Starting your trip on Sept 25th and just going with a Royal Room....chances are very high that you will get the Free Dining for that portion of your trip. If you start at AoA, the Little Mermaid Rooms have not had any kind of a discount available to them since they very first opened......so staying there means that you will not get any discounts and could completely miss Free Dining since you are talking about moving to a new location at a time that has been blocked out of Free Dining for a few years now. So.....if you get the free dining....then you most definitely won't be spending $113 per day on food for those days you are staying at POR. The one glitch there is that the Free Dining does have a 14 day cut off.....so....actually doing 14 days at POR, then a few days over at Universal and then returning for your Contemporary Stay will not only be easily possible....it would be a great way to insure that free dining. Of course.....ultimately it is your choice but honestly....if I were looking at saving money by staying in a Value Resort.....I'd pick one of the Values that you can actually expect a discount out and not one that you can pretty well guarantee will NOT have any kind of a discount.
    Brenda

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    Quote Originally Posted by whatchadoon View Post
    By my count, that is 10 days in WDW parks altogether (4 MK, 3 EP, 1 AK, 1 DS, 1 Blizzard).

    If you can "bunch" those 10 days with a 14-day span (regular tickets are good for 14 days from first use), you can get away with a 10 day without park hopper (since I see no split days), at least for your kids. You can add the water park option, but I think for one day at BB a separate BB ticket might be better (not sure about BB stand-alone prices).

    You might want to get the AP for yourself if it gives you good room discounts, but you should be able to save over $300 per child on tickets.

    That's how we did it - SeaWorld & Universal parks first, then WDW all in a row.

    Just a thought, but it might save you a nice chunk of money....
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    Here's the thing,

    I would really want to be able to use EMH even if I visit an off-site park that day.

    I know Universal and sea world usually close at about 6-7 max during the low season
    so I will have time to get back to MK or EPCOT for some EMH the same evening.

    This is where hopper ticket or annual pass comes very handy.

    I do agree I don't need the water park option if I only plan one day for Blizzrad.

    As I mentioned earlier there are pros&cons dividing the trip to 2 parts(
    off-site and on-site).

    For me the major reason not going alone with this option is I will have
    to give up POR and fantastic charm of the royal princess rooms.

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    I would really want to be able to use EMH even if I visit an off-site park that day.
    You may want to rethink this.
    EMH parks are usually NOT recommended- they will always be the most crowded park.

    And not sure if anyone mentioned this above but if you are using AP for a room discount- then you will not be able to also get Free Dining.
    Free Dining is a pkg and tickets must be included with your pkg to get the Free Dining (AP does not count).

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    I think after a few weeks in a hotel room, a condo with bedrooms, more than one bathroom, and a full kitchen would have some pretty fantastic charm to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whatchadoon View Post
    I understand. My point is that only an Israeli TA might know if there are country-specific discounts, so you might want to confirm that first.

    Once there is no such thing, it's a level playing field.
    =================

    I understand now,thank's.

    I will contact the ISRAELI TA just along with the big ADVP.

    But first thing first, contact Disney directly to get the basic figures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blyday View Post
    It seems to me that you really haven't actually looked at prices on your own yet when you talk about a modest budget. I just crunched a couple of numbers. Staying at just POR Royal Room Garden View (not even the least expensive of the Royal Rooms) and then moving to the Contemporary for your last days....with budgeting $1500 per flight (figured I might as well pad that....just in case) and $700 for Annual Passes (again....padding).....you end up with $3600 left to spend. Even with tickets to all of your other attractions....that works out to at least $2500 spending money which is a total of $113 per day that you will have to spend on food and souvenirs.

    Starting your trip on Sept 25th and just going with a Royal Room....chances are very high that you will get the Free Dining for that portion of your trip. If you start at AoA, the Little Mermaid Rooms have not had any kind of a discount available to them since they very first opened......so staying there means that you will not get any discounts and could completely miss Free Dining since you are talking about moving to a new location at a time that has been blocked out of Free Dining for a few years now. So.....if you get the free dining....then you most definitely won't be spending $113 per day on food for those days you are staying at POR. The one glitch there is that the Free Dining does have a 14 day cut off.....so....actually doing 14 days at POR, then a few days over at Universal and then returning for your Contemporary Stay will not only be easily possible....it would be a great way to insure that free dining. Of course.....ultimately it is your choice but honestly....if I were looking at saving money by staying in a Value Resort.....I'd pick one of the Values that you can actually expect a discount out and not one that you can pretty well guarantee will NOT have any kind of a discount.
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    Wow,

    Your plan not only makes sense,it also sounds practical assuming I will get the free dininig plan.

    However if this will not be the case or the dates will not fit exactlly (Sorry,I'm really not flexible
    on the matter of changing my vacation dates) I could end up with nothing
    because there won't be any little mermaid rooms left next summer when free dining plan will be announced
    and also I will get a charge penalty from Disney to having changed my resort from moderate to value.

    This is my only concern!!!

    If there won't be free dining plan I will not be able to afford staying 10 days at POR and then UNIVERSAL resort.

    Also my daughters are stucked on AOA maybe even more than POR.

    It won't be easy convincing them...I sure will need a good argument(like a lot more money for souvenirs)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZEEV View Post
    ======================

    I would really want to be able to use EMH even if I visit an off-site park that day.

    I know Universal and sea world usually close at about 6-7 max during the low season
    so I will have time to get back to MK or EPCOT for some EMH the same evening.

    This is where hopper ticket or annual pass comes very handy.
    If this is what you want to do, just be aware that then you CANNOT move to Universal hotels for your non-WDW days. You need to have a valid ticket (your AP), PLUS be on WDW property (your room key) to use EMH... the AP alone will not do it...

    As a practical aside, after a full day at any park, even a day that ends "early", I'm not sure if you will have the energy to hop back to WDW, especially since you are going for so many days... you might have to treat it more as a marathon, less like a sprint... that might be a nice time to chill at the resort, go to the pool, even go to DTD for a while - none of which will require the AP...

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    Okay....I guess you are not understanding the discounts or how to change rooms etc at all.....maybe you should post a thread on the Resort forum about your resort choices and how this all works. You aren't going to get charged a fee for changing the rooms as long as you are more then 45 days out. September discounts will be out well before you hit that mark. Plus....as I mentioned....if you stay at AoA...you are guaranteed that you are going to miss out on discounts for your entire trip. The Club Level room discounts are rare....so figure on paying full price for that portion.....the dates that you are looking at moving to POR are typically blocked out....so no discount there and AoA Little Mermaid rooms are 99% sure that they will NOT have any discount at all....period. My point is to start off in a resort where you at least have a fighting chance to get a discount....even if it isn't free dining....it will be good enough that it will probably be cheaper to stay in a Moderate then at AoA. If you really want AoA....then move there during the dates that are typically blocked out.

    Anyway.....that is for you to discuss with your TA or for you to get more information about in the correct forum which is the Resort Forum.
    Brenda

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZEEV View Post
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    Wow,

    Your plan not only makes sense,it also sounds practical assuming I will get the free dininig plan.

    However if this will not be the case or the dates will not fit exactlly (Sorry,I'm really not flexible
    on the matter of changing my vacation dates) I could end up with nothing
    because there won't be any little mermaid rooms left next summer when free dining plan will be announced
    and also I will get a charge penalty from Disney to having changed my resort from moderate to value.

    This is my only concern!!!

    If there won't be free dining plan I will not be able to afford staying 10 days at POR and then UNIVERSAL resort.

    Also my daughters are stucked on AOA maybe even more than POR.

    It won't be easy convincing them...I sure will need a good argument(like a lot more money for souvenirs)
    Wow, I begin to feel that OP doesn't want help, but just to argue the what ifs... This is pointless for a vacation that's 14 months away.

    There is a lot of patience here, but every thought is only met with a but, but, but, but, but what iiiiiiiifffffff.........

    Blyday or Brenda is a travel agent and just ran numbers for you. I recommend you consider giving her your business. I'm sure she will be committed to helping you have the most Magical Vacation possible for you and your daughters.

    Just give her a break and realize that she loves Disney as much as you do and trust she has your best interests at heart.

    Sorry Brenda if this is out of line. I ran out of patience. My bad.
    Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not to your own understanding.




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    Quote Originally Posted by whatchadoon View Post
    If this is what you want to do, just be aware that then you CANNOT move to Universal hotels for your non-WDW days. You need to have a valid ticket (your AP), PLUS be on WDW property (your room key) to use EMH... the AP alone will not do it...

    As a practical aside, after a full day at any park, even a day that ends "early", I'm not sure if you will have the energy to hop back to WDW, especially since you are going for so many days... you might have to treat it more as a marathon, less like a sprint... that might be a nice time to chill at the resort, go to the pool, even go to DTD for a while - none of which will require the AP...
    ====================

    You sure reached one of my biggest Dilemmas.

    On the one hand I really like the idea of splitiing disney resort
    with one Universal resort in the middle and I don't mind spending time
    at parks even as late as midnight especially if the parks gets more
    empty and we can go easyly to many rides.

    On the other hand it will be a shame to miss front line passes at Universal.

    However,if I book a Universal resort for only 5 nights
    I still have a lot of nights to use EMH and we should not forget
    AK and BLIZZARD are also closing early so here are another
    great days to make use of EMH.

    It sure is exhausting spending a day at MK or EPCOT from 9 to midnight.

    However staying on-site allows me a break in the middle of the day
    if I fill too tiered(wich I probably will not!!!).

    And finally I was thinking I might start days with EMH at a later hour like 11-12 in the morning and so
    it won't be that hard staying late at the park.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blyday View Post
    Okay....I guess you are not understanding the discounts or how to change rooms etc at all.....maybe you should post a thread on the Resort forum about your resort choices and how this all works. You aren't going to get charged a fee for changing the rooms as long as you are more then 45 days out. September discounts will be out well before you hit that mark. Plus....as I mentioned....if you stay at AoA...you are guaranteed that you are going to miss out on discounts for your entire trip. The Club Level room discounts are rare....so figure on paying full price for that portion.....the dates that you are looking at moving to POR are typically blocked out....so no discount there and AoA Little Mermaid rooms are 99% sure that they will NOT have any discount at all....period. My point is to start off in a resort where you at least have a fighting chance to get a discount....even if it isn't free dining....it will be good enough that it will probably be cheaper to stay in a Moderate then at AoA. If you really want AoA....then move there during the dates that are typically blocked out.

    Anyway.....that is for you to discuss with your TA or for you to get more information about in the correct forum which is the Resort Forum.
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    Tough one

    I understand I can make changes to my reservations
    until the middle of august which is late enough
    to know all discounts.

    The big problem is if there won't be a good deal I will miss
    AOA rooms cause from what I understand the little mermaid rooms
    are taken quickly.

    Also I don't like the idea of moving from a moderate resort
    to a value one...excitment should always be increasing
    during the trip...

    I admit I don't see a solution here but maybe a TA indeed can help me.

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    Seems to me it would make the most sense, be most cost effective and least stressful to:

    Stay off site with a car for first part of trip- Busch, SW, whatever else- you need a car for those locations. (I didn't really see if you had included that cost in your estimates)
    Rent a nice townhouse or condo w/pool for less than $100 a night

    Then go to Disney for your 10 days there- wherever. Drop car at car care center or Swolphin.

    From Disney take Mears shuttle or car service to Universal- stay onsite.
    I think 3 nights with 4 days in park is more than enough time there.

    From Univ- take a car service or cab to MCO.

    But like WyoDisney- I am not sure you are really open to anything we might suggest.

    This is apparently your 2nd trip to Disney?
    Those of us making suggestions here have dozens of trips under our belts and many of us actually do this sort of Disney planning for a living. But what do we know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by off2neverland View Post
    You may want to rethink this.
    EMH parks are usually NOT recommended- they will always be the most crowded park.

    And not sure if anyone mentioned this above but if you are using AP for a room discount- then you will not be able to also get Free Dining.
    Free Dining is a pkg and tickets must be included with your pkg to get the Free Dining (AP does not count).
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    I only have so little experiance with EMH from staying on-site at disneyland PARIS.

    They didn't have EMH in the evening but opened the park at 8 am for resort guests.

    It's true that when the park opened for everyone it was very crowded
    but at 8 in the morning it was practically empty!!!

    that's why I prefer to visit other parks on EMH days and leave the crowded park for late evening hours
    when everybody leaves and only resort guests remain.

    I assume at these hours I won't have problems with crowds...

    As for the anuual pass correct me if I'm wrong but seems to me a better idea
    to give up the AP discount and order a package just
    for that specific resort and recieve the free dining.

    I will probably need the free dining only for the part I stay at POR
    and there I can order a package for 10 days and purchase 1 day park ticket(minimum possible).

    The big question is if I could visit parks using AP on my package days
    and still enjoy free dining too(I admit this gets more and more complicated...
    Last edited by ZEEV; 08-28-2013 at 12:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZEEV View Post
    The big question is if I could visit parks using AP on my package days
    and still enjoy free dining too(I admit this gets more and more complicated...
    I have no idea what you are asking.
    And I am pretty sure Free Dining pkgs require a minimum 2 day ticket now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by off2neverland View Post
    I have no idea what you are asking.
    And I am pretty sure Free Dining pkgs require a minimum 2 day ticket now.
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    I will be happy to explain.

    let's say I book a 10 day package with free dining and only 2 day tickets.

    suppose I want to enjoy a free table service dinner on the fourth day at MK after
    I already used my 2 day tickets.

    Can I get in the park using my AP and enjoy my free dinner???

    If it's possible maybe it's also worth it...

    And again thank you very much for your patiance answering my questions...

    This trip is a major event for us so I admit I feel a need
    to inquire about every small detail

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZEEV View Post
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    I will be happy to explain.

    let's say I book a 10 day package with free dining and only 2 day tickets.

    suppose I want to enjoy a free table service dinner on the fourth day at MK after
    I already used my 2 day tickets.

    Can I get in the park using my AP and enjoy my free dinner???

    If it's possible maybe it's also worth it...

    And again thank you very much for your patiance answering my questions...

    This trip is a major event for us so I admit I feel a need
    to inquire about every small detail
    If you're going to book using the free dining promotion then you'll want that to be the first part of your actual Disney stay since you'll have tickets attached to that package. You can upgrade the tickets that you purchase with this package to the APs at one of the parks. You wouldn't buy the APs ahead of time.

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