Magic Kingdom Cheat Sheet Day 1 with FastPass+

Continuing from Part 1, which briefly discussed rope drop and the FastPass+ kiosk locations, we set out on our morning. This is what we’re after with a few changes due to the 8am open:

Ideal Two-Day Morning Plan Day 1 With FastPass+:

Use FastPass+ at Enchanted Tales with Belle, Space Mountain, and Buzz or Tomorrowland Speedway

  1. Meet Rapunzel or Cinderella at Princess Fairytale Hall if desired: 9am – 9:10am
  2. Ride Peter Pan’s Flight: 9:13am – 9:25am
  3. Ride The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh: 9:30am – 9:45am
  4. Ride Dumbo the Flying Elephant: 9:50am – 10:05am
  5. Ride The Barnstormer: 10:07am – 10:15am
  6. Meet Ariel at Ariel’s Grotto: 10:20am – 10:35am
  7. Ride Journey of the Little Mermaid: 10:37am – 10:55am
  8. Ride it’s a small world: 11am – 11:20am
  9. Ride The Haunted Mansion: 11:25am – 11:45am
  10. Have lunch. Columbia Harbour House, Pinocchio Village Haus, and Liberty Tree Tavern are close.
  11. Experience Enchanted Tales with Belle with FastPass+: 12:30pm – 1pm

Rapunzel is our first stop due to the limited capacity and noise factor in the queue later in the day when it’s busy. You could instead substitute Merida or Cinderella or simply skip it and head straight to Pan.

The next Cheat Sheet draft will probably include ideal mornings with an emphasis on characters and one without characters.

This is apparently a new dress on Snow White.

And the corresponding $64.95 version for kids.

Meeting characters as a single adult male at 8am on a Saturday is extraordinarily awkward. I lied and said my niece requested a picture – an excuse I’m sure they roll their eyes at a hundred times a day. I even made up a name, age, and location, but fumbled it when Snow asked where she was. “Uhh huhhhsahsad probably asleep derp derp…in Seattle.” Such an embarrassment. Just put me out to pasture.

I arrived right at 8am and was back out front at 8:06am.

It’s unnecessary to book your FP+ selections first thing in the morning due to a concern that experiences will quickly run out. The fact is that even on a very busy Saturday over MLK Weekend, there are still plenty of return times for all attractions, save for Wishes and the Electrical Parade that were never available on the day of to begin with. But you may want to take advantage of the short lines this early by setting them up now or right after Pan. Remember that I don’t recommend heading into Town Square or Guest Relations at City Hall to set up your times. Lines are much shorter in the individual Lands because people are so spread out once they arrive at The Hub.

Peter Pan’s Flight is up next.

8:08am.

About 20 people in front of me in line even after spending a few minutes at Rapunzel.

holla @ u ladiez

Basically the Internet’s reaction to FP+.

Back out front seven minutes later at 8:15am.

The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh is up next. It’s another low capacity attraction popular with families, which is why we’ve prioritized it this early.

Just wait for the afternoon crowds.

8:19am.

The entire state of Colorado on January 1st 2k14.

On our way just six minutes later at 8:25am. There was nobody in front of me in line. My plan was to use the FP+ kiosks back in Storybook Circus, but I saw a temporary one in the distance at Cosmic Ray’s and headed down.

It took five minutes to set up my attractions as discussed in Part 1.

No wait for Alice in case you want a quick pic. With so few people around, she’d probably sit down to tea. Rapunzel was traumatizing enough so we press forward.

Arriving at Dumbo at 8:35am. Looking back at the Cheat Sheet timing, I’m already 15 minutes ahead:

  1. Meet Rapunzel or Cinderella at Princess Fairytale Hall if desired: 9am – 9:10am
  2. Ride Peter Pan’s Flight: 9:13am – 9:25am
  3. Ride The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh: 9:30am – 9:45am
  4. Ride Dumbo the Flying Elephant: 9:50am – 10:05am

With a 9am opening, the previous waits would have been a bit longer because more people are up and at ’em. Even with stifling afternoon crowds, the morning is easy breezy.

This early, Dumbo is flying empty.

Dumbo took all of six minutes and I’m already at Barnstormer at 8:44am. They were letting people stay on if they wanted to go again.

Once is enough. Back out front at 8:49am.

The Storybook Circus characters usually start greeting at 9:45am, but may start greeting as early as 8am with a regular 8am opening. You could meet either set in around five minutes. There would be a bit of a backup if this was a regular 9am open, but waits are still less than 10 minutes.

Ariel’s Grotto is next. The Cheat Sheet ordinarily puts you here at 10:20am, which is usually 20 minutes after the second Ariel arrives on scene.

Here at 8:54am, there is only one Ariel and even with only about 20 people in front of me, I ended up waiting 25 minutes.

That’s nothing compared to the afternoon though, when the posted wait was 75 minutes and one of the longest in the Park.

So awkward.

30 minute wait posted as I left.

At 9:20am, the posted wait at Journey of the Little Mermaid was 20 minutes. This is the minimum time you’ll see outside of the very late night, where they may drop it to 10.

But there’s nobody here this early as clamshells leave empty.

Popularity seems to be waning a bit already. I exited at 9:30am, for a total wait/ride time of exactly ten minutes.

FP+ kiosk lengths remain fairly short. You should be in and out in less than ten minutes at this point. Storybook Circus would still be a lot better.

Fantasyland crowds are picking up a bit with Peter Pan’s Flight already up to 25 minutes.

We’re back for it’s a small world with its 10-minute posted wait.

This might be the worst use of FastPass+ in the Park. Not only do you not save a ton of time, but the merge point is all the way back here.

Stickin the creepers in row 12 with no leg room =[

Basically ur face trying to deal with the My Disney Experience site.

The screens at the end of the ride looked like they were ready for action.

“Farvel Johnson Family of Four from Nantucket, we’d just like to let everyone in the boat know that they’re staying Concierge Level at Grand Floridian for $1700/night while you waste away at your six-bedroom house with private pool for much less.”

Back out front at 9:53am and things are picking up a bit, but Peter Pan’s Flight is still at 30 minutes, which isn’t all that bad.

Incoming Fantasyland crowds.

Haunted Mansion with a 10-minute posted wait at 9:56am.

All standby riders are funneled through the “interactive” cemetery.

FastPass+ users bypass the cemetery and wait in front of the doors to the pre-show.

So smug.

The door to the loading area opens right underneath this painting.

Positioning yourself in front of it will ease your wait by two or three minutes. I don’t usually bother.

Basically the My Disney Experience app.

Back out front at 10:18am.

So in just over two hours, I accomplished:

1. Rapunzel and Snow White: 8am – 8:06am
2. Peter Pan’s Flight: 8:08am – 8:15am
3. Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh: 8:19am – 8:24am
4. Used FP+ Kiosk outside Cosmic Rays to book future FP+ from 8:25am – 8:30am
5. Dumbo: 8:34am – 8:42am
6. Barnstormer: 8:43am – 8:49am
7. Ariel’s Grotto 8:53am – 9:19am
8. Journey of the Little Mermaid: 9:20am – 9:31am
9. it’s a small world: 9:37am – 9:53am
10. Haunted Mansion: 9:55am – 10:17am

A pretty solid morning with a maximum of a four-minute walk in between attractions.

After taking pictures of walls for a while and grabbing a hot cocoa, we find ourselves in Adventureland 26 minutes later at 10:43am. You could fill some time here with lower priority characters or an anytime attraction or two. Country Bear Jamboree, Aladdin’s Magical Carpets, and Jungle Cruise would be good candidates in this area.

Jungle Cruise still sits at 10 minutes.

Pirates at 5. If you’re interested in Jungle Cruise, it would be prudent to ride it first because the wait will be longer later. If that makes any sense.

Literally the only person that’s RSVP’d for my Super Bowl party. And he indicated he’s bringing a +3.

Back out front at 10:58am for a total wait/ride time of 15 minutes.

Nightmare Before Christmas merch in the Pirates store.

And your 3,917th opportunity to purchase MagicBand accessories. At this point, I think they’re just trolling MAGIC.

I’ve got about 35 minutes until my Enchanted Tales with Belle FastPass+ and it’s time for lunch. Eating early will result in much shorter lines and fewer people in the seating areas.

15 minutes for Mansion.

15 for it’s a small world, though they’re already using the extended queue.

45 at Peter Pan’s Flight.

Fantasyland crowds:




30 at Rapunzel and 35 at Cinderella.

Friar’s Nook pictured much earlier in the day.

You may recall my mention that they have a new macaroni-based menu.

I’m guessing this picture of the Bacon Cheeseburger Macaroni and Cheese – $8.99 will not be used in Disney’s marketing materials.

This was actually sort of really good, in kind of a really gross This Is America way.

It’s piping hot, EXTREMELY CHEESY!!!!!! and loaded with stuff. There’s a layer of Disney ground taco meat sans seasoning underneath the lettuce and tomato. Bacon bits might work better than the strip, but the strip does offer a bit more visual oomph. As I walked my tray over to Pinocchio Village Haus to sit down, people literally sneered at me. Haters gonna hate. Anyway, this thing is probably 7,000 calories and tastes like Stouffer’s Macaroni and Cheese with ground beef mixed in. I probably would have left off the crunchy lettuce and tomato and the flavor would be a bit more cohesive. You can always ask for the toppings on the side. Friar’s Nook is only open on busier days. I was pretty much disgusted with myself over how much I enjoyed it.

After some additional fiddling around, it’s time for Enchanted Tales with Belle FastPass+.

If you’re interested in experiencing the attraction, FP+ is a no-brainer. First thing in the morning, it takes about 25 minutes to complete even with a minimal initial wait. That’s too much prime touring time. Remember that we were in and out of Fairytale Hall in a total of six minutes. Peter Pan’s Flight took seven.

FastPass+ users bypass Maurice’s Cottage almost entirely.

You’ll enter a separate door directly into the workshop with the enchanted mirror thing.

They’re getting a lot better here. Literally every single person in the room had a smile on their faces throughout the entire production. That’s a far cry from the first time I visited, where the poor child selected to play Beast sobbed through the entire thing.

They were better about getting people that didn’t participate in the show a picture with Belle. At the end of the show, each participant will take a picture with Belle. If you didn’t participate and would like a picture, get in the back of this line.

For my 11:35am – 12:35pm FP+, I arrived at 11:58am and was back out front at 12:25pm with an initial wait of only about five minutes.

The Cheat Sheet also calls for a Tomorrowland Speedway FP+. The wait here is so miserable outside with all that exhaust that even 10 minutes is rough in January or unbearable in July. This is a 30-minute posted wait.

Space Mountain was a mess.

This was the line for the FP+ kiosk. It looked to be 30+ minutes.

The standby line was completely full and guests were overflowing out.

Like completely full.

Like very full.

FastPass+ not so much.

I hate Space Mountain. I almost fell backwards and out of the vehicle trying to climb in, presumably to my death. Granted I’m 6’2″ and 215 pounds, but I really don’t know how anyone gets in and out of that thing.

It doesn’t take much for the FP+ return line to get backed up like this. A tour group of 40 to 50 South Americans arrived and cast members were trying to move them to the left so they could use one Mickey scanner while everyone else used the other. Whether you wait out here or inside is really of little consequence. You’re either going to wait behind these people before scanning your Band/ticket or after.

End of line for the PeopleMover on the left.

The FastPass+ return line for Buzz was backed up to Monsters Inc with the entire extended standby queue full.

Cast members with green flags are not what you want to see.

30 minutes at Dumbo.

35 at Barnstormer. Considering the heavy crowds and physical length of the standby lines, posted waits were much shorter than they were during the legacy FASTPASS days. Few people are going to use one of their three FP+ selections at a ride like Barnstormer. With fewer people returning with priority, the standby wait is shorter. On the other hand, people that want to experience Barnstormer and don’t want to use FP+ have to get in line, which should balance things out.

Even so, attractions that don’t offer FASTPASS had shorter than usual posted waits too. 15 minutes for both sets of characters.

75 minutes for Ariel is the longest current posted wait.

Still 20 minutes at Journey of the Little Mermaid. The standby line was backed up outside, but it’s hard to gauge the actual wait without knowing how much of the queue inside is being used.

This isn’t actually the end of the line for Be Our Guest lunch at 1:35pm, but it’s close.

You may be able to see the cast member in purple near the back of the line. It stretches back to the fountain outside Gaston’s Tavern.

Then all the way around and across the bridge. This would take at least 45 minutes, if not longer. As you may be aware, Be Our Guest is actually a potential FP+ experience. It can’t be booked via the app, it does not count against your three FP+ total, and it’s only available to on-site guests. Visit https://beourguestlunch.disney.go.com/ and input the 12-digit confirmation number attached to your trip. If you don’t have the number, it’s listed here: https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/trip/my-vacation/. Reservations typically open up about a month in advance. You can follow along on availability in this forum thread. If you’re eligible and want to eat lunch here, you absolutely want to make a reservation.

35 minutes at The Many Adventures.

The standby queue is completely full, but the wait is 25 to 35 minutes shorter than it would have been with legacy FASTPASS. With only three FP+ opportunities, relatively few people are going to use it here.

30 minutes at Rapunzel and 40 at Cinderella.

This Is Fantasyland.

The line for Pinocchio Village Haus spills out the front entrance and throughout the outdoor seating section.

Peter Pan’s Flight is “only” 65 minutes with FP+ return completely full and backed out to the old FASTPASS machines along with the standby queue full.

it’s a small world is posted at 20 minutes with guests filing through the extended queue.

35 minutes at Mansion.

40 minutes at Big Thunder.

The standby queue looked to be full and FASTPASS return was snaking around in a separate queue out in front of the entrance.

45 minutes for Pirates of the Caribbean.

The queue starts out here somewhere.

On the other hand, Jungle Cruise is low at only 30 minutes.

Compared to 35 at Aladdin’s Magical Carpets.

Getting stranger, there are literally 17 people in line for Tinker Bell. The wait here is typically 45 to 60 minutes on a day like this. Even the least crowded days typically see 30 minute waits around this time. I can’t explain it.

2:20pm posted waits:


Considering how crowded it is and how long the lines are, these wait times are very low. It’s not every day that we see the entire extended queue full at PeopleMover, not to mention the line out the door at Pinocchio Village Haus, or the entire standby queues full at Buzz or Big Thunder Mountain. A wait any longer than 25 minutes at Pirates indicates a “busy day” and we’re all the way out to 45. It “felt” to me like the standby waits were under exaggerated considering the lengths of the standby queues and how many people were returning with FastPass+ reservations. Remember that Big Thunder Mountain was completely out of FP+ reservations through 3:45pm when we checked at 1:45pm, meaning the maximum number of FP+ for each previous time slot had been distributed. Yet the posted wait was 40 minutes. That’s 40 to 60 minutes shorter than it would have been under similar conditions with legacy FASTPASS. Considering how many people were in the Park, there’s really no explaining the short Tinker Bell wait. I would expect a 60-minute posted wait and an entire queue full of people. On the flip side, the wait for Ariel was 75 minutes.

These are strange times.

On the plus side, FastPass+ does not affect our morning touring strategy much at all. I flew through attractions as fast  as I would have had legacy FASTPASS still been in operation. FP+ eliminates the need to visit Tomorrowland early to collect legacy FASTPASSes. It eliminates a lot of the required backtracking to collect pieces of paper. If you’re staying on-site or use a MagicBand, it’s nice being able to schedule FastPass+ times when they won’t conflict with dining reservations. It brings clarity to the return time. We no longer have to be concerned with the Peter Pan’s Flight FASTPASS return time at 2:30pm or what time we have to pull Space Mountain FASTPASSes to get a return time of 4:45pm. We can simply schedule it for 4:45pm. With the current limit of three FP+ over the course of the day, it does limit our ability to re-ride some attractions. Ordinarily, we would probably use legacy FASTPASS at Peter Pan’s Flight for a second ride later in the day. Perhaps at The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh as well. With the number of same-day FP+ experiences available, on-site guests should be able to schedule whatever rides they want upon arriving.

Touring with FP+ is different. But different isn’t always worse. The three FP+ cap at Magic Kingdom is limiting. There is no getting around that, but there are positive takeaways too. It was really nice being able to walk into Enchanted Tales in the afternoon with a FP+ reservation made earlier that day – something that wasn’t possible before. I accomplished everything I wanted to that morning with virtually no waits, even with people being able to schedule FP+ first thing in the morning. The only thing I wasn’t able to do was run around Magic Kingdom collecting paper FASTPASSes to re-ride a couple attractions later in the afternoon. Is one less re-ride going to keep you away from Walt Disney World? Is it worth stressing over? Is the world ending because you find yourself on a relaxing Liberty Square Riverboat ride instead of huffing and puffing back to Big Thunder Mountain to ride for the third time that day? This is your own business. But I can assure you that it’s going to be all right.

We can do this.

Comments

  1. Joanie says

    Quote: “Meeting characters as a single adult male at 8am on a Saturday is extraordinarily awkward.” Can’t you just tell the princesses you are a somewhat infamous blogger and millions of people infatuated with the Dis Boards are depending on you to do all their thinking for them?

  2. Asha says

    The picture of you on Space Mountain made me laugh (because it reminded me of me, always a camera in my hand). No one told you to put the camera away? I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been told to put the camera away on a ride.

  3. Ernie says

    Josh, would the same tour plan work if we substituted the Fairytale Hall meet with Mickey instead (over the summer)?

  4. James P says

    Pretty much what I thought. Do normal morning touring and save FP+ for after lunch when the crowds are heavier. Still not a big fan of FP+, but definitely starting to see the positive side of not needed to cross the parks and back track to get FP and then going back to use them.

    Hey Josh, have you ever taken a family (adopt a family for a day or something) through one of your touring schedules to see how it works for a family? My wife and I head to WDW just the two of us and usually don’t have problems, and it looks like you don’t have a lot of issues either at it;s just you, but how would what you did in this post work with mom, dad and 2-3 kids. Hmmm. If you have an older post that does this, could you point it out, would love to read it.

  5. Sean M. says

    “Peter Pan’s Flight is ‘only’ 65 minutes with FP+ return completely full and backed out to the old FASTPASS machines along with the standby queue full.”

    When the FP+ return is “completely full” or very long as you mentioned for several rides does that mean a 30+ minute wait in the FP+ line? Wouldn’t seem very fastpassish.

  6. Julia says

    We leave in just under 60 days. I tried to make FP+ reservation for BOG … no luck. All out. Oh well. Just wanted people to know.

  7. Bob D. says

    Building on From James P’s comment and in the immortal words of Katniss Everdeen

    “I volunteer as triubute!”

    We are a family of five and will be in WDW from April 3-12. We would be happy to be the family guinea pigs for a touring plan run through. We are RD focused and get around the park well when we need to. Also, not so photogenic on the Dad side (me) of the equation, so I am happy to stay out of pictures for ya!

  8. kalliyan1 says

    Question….following your morning plan as you laid out, I’m wondering if this is a good plan: After taking advantage of the morning, saving the FP+ to go over to AK and hit only a few of the rides there as we don’t want to spend a whole day there, and then return to MK for the evening for extra PM hours(the day I’m talking about is a crowd level 4 and MK hrs will be 9a-1a)? Historically when we have done the extra PM hours, the wait times really diminish around 11-1a. Would/Is that still the expectation for lines for the extra PM hours?
    Thanks and I really enjoyed this post!!!

  9. Milan says

    I read disboards or wdwmagic and it’s like the world is ending. And then I read this.

    I prefer this. Keep it up.

  10. Lance says

    I’ve visited your site daily for almost a year but next week will be the first time we’ve been able to apply your suggestions. (As offsite guess) FP+ has had us concerned but your articles yesterday and today give us a lot of hope. Your cheat sheets and maps are printed and ready to go so we’ll see how things play out.

    Thanks Josh!

  11. Caitlin says

    Love your posts. Great information based on actual experience. Gotta say though, that those snaking FP+ return lines kinda freak me out. Wonder how long they would have been had you waited in them (like that one for BTMR). Experiment for next time?

  12. David says

    Perhaps the reason for the long Pirates line is because they have really only one standby line now? The right lane is dedicated to FP+ and only FP+. They have effectively wiped out almost half the ride’s capacity because there is no way they are filling the boats on that side with enough FP+ people.

    During Thanksgiving we were there in the evening and used a FP+ for Pirates. The standby line was outside entrance while the FP+ line literally had nobody in it. We walked to the front of the FP+ line and got our own boat for the four of us, while on the other side the standby boats were going out completely full.

    Maybe for some of the second tier (there’s that word) rides FP+ has shortened the standby lines because fewer people are using FP for it and more standby guests get in, but certainly that cannot be the case with headlining attractions unless Disney is distributing less FP for those attractions. I certainly doubt that is the case. Remember, ride capacity is pretty much set. You either have to pull from the FP+ line or the standby line. The only way the standby line is getting let in is if there are few people in the FP+ line.

  13. Mike says

    Josh-

    Great Post. I laughed so hard at the “Awkward” pics. Ive never seen the Park as empty as your pictures showed..I’m very jealous

    Great Blog as always

  14. Katie says

    Great report and great insights.

    I was planning to book the FP+ for afternoon and early evening. Now, I know that’s the same thinking as a million other guests at MK. So, is it better to schedule them around noon or even later in the evening or is it OK to hoop on the extended FP+ queue line in the afternoon?

    We would also like to meet Mickey and doing speedway is also a must for DD. When would you schedule to see Mickey on a day like this? And please also share the rest of the day, like what time is best to have a Dole Whip. This trip report is a life saver for us visiting in March break.

  15. Lara says

    Thanks for the plan Josh. This is great! Do you think it is feasible to meet Merida at RD before Rapunzel? (And then follow the rest of your plan.)Would this increase my wait times significantly?

  16. David says

    Well we’ll be down the last week in February. I’ll have a couple of elementary aged kids and their grandparents with some mobility issues. Hope we can make it through this agenda because it sounds like we can get most everything we want in the morning and then enjoy the rest of the day.

    Thanks, Josh!

  17. Giovanna says

    Thanks so much for this, Josh! I can’t believe you don’t charge us for all this (or even have ads on your site). This was a very balanced and informative review. We were never people who rode something more than once in the same trip anyway, so I think FP+ is going to work well for us. Even though this was MLK weekend, I think President’s week and Spring Break will really tell the tale of how FP+ changes things.

  18. bruisedcrew says

    Thank you for your report.

    Now it will be fun to sit back and watch the criers of doom on the Dis tell you how wrong you are when you say that it will be all right.

  19. says

    It’s very weird seeing you in long pants and a sweatshirt!!
    My family will be there starting Sunday and we always use your plans. Very excited for FastPass+ and not having to run back and forth!

    And if you did want to tour with a family and see what it’s like with a small kid, feel free to join us Wednesday the 29th :)

  20. Mark says

    Is one less re-ride going to keep you away from Walt Disney World? IT’S MORE THAN ONE, LIKE 2 OR 3 ON MANY DIFFERENT ATTRATIONS! SO YES, UNIVERSAL IS LOOKING BETTER AND BETTER!
    Is it worth stressing over? NO, BUT IT IS VERY ANNOYING AND LIMITING
    Is the world ending because you find yourself on a relaxing Liberty Square Riverboat ride instead of huffing and puffing back to Big Thunder Mountain to ride for the third time that day? I ENJOY TREKKING ALL OVER THE PARK FOR LEGACY FP ACTUALLY!!!! AND IT’S WORTH IT TO GIVE MY KIDS ANOTHER RIDE ON THEIR VACATION!

    3 FP+ Limit per day still SUCKS!!!
    Love how Disney is Under Exaggerating the waits to keep the negativity down on-line about FP+

  21. L says

    I just found out I’m pregnant, so I’m trying to switch some of our fastpass+ reservations around which could be a lot easier, but honestly, based on my experience with Disney’s website in the past, I’ve been pretty impressed. Great post, very helpful! Love your awkward Princess pictures :)

  22. jc9812 says

    Josh,

    Thank you for immortalizing me into the message board hall of fame by linking my post in your blog. I would like to thank all of the people that made this a dream a reality. starting with……:)

    Seriously though, thanks for the great update. They really help me get through the times between my trips. I have been having serious Danzy withdrawals since the September trip. I have friends going over Spring break and keep stressing to them to Study your cheat sheet and blog. Thanks again.

  23. Chris J. says

    Aside from your quirky humor and undoubtedly the best touring advice EVER… the “awkward” interaction with the characters is my favorite thing to see! Thanks!!!!

  24. Sherry says

    Magic Kingdom opens at 9:00am on our park day. Just dh and myself, how does this plan sound?

    At opening:

    Space Mountain
    Buzz
    Small World
    Thunder Mountain
    Pirates
    Haunted Mansion

    We have a FP+ for BOG 11:45am

    Does this look like something we can do by our BOG reservation?

  25. Linda says

    I see pretty much the same wait times as usual at our preferred attractions. (Except Pirates, that’s bizarre.) The big difference is that we can get past three of those lines with fastpasses but only three and not four or five which would have been our norm. I do appreciate your humorous attitude about this.

  26. Lauren says

    Thanks for this. It’s making me feel better about President’s week – although being able to schedule FP+ for a Sunday afternoon arrival on President’s week already had me feeling ok about going at such a busy time.

  27. Lori says

    I found this site 2 years ago, when I had to leave TGM (RIP). I have abandoned the Dis altogether. So negative. I much prefer this. Love the humor & pictures to go along with it. These posts are what have eased my mind about our upcoming trip next month. That and the excellent forums with everyone being so helpful. :)

  28. Jody says

    I feel the same as you expressed in your last couple of paragraphs: while only 3 FP+ per day is limiting, it is nice to be able to book rides when you want them rather than trying to figure out when you need to pull a paper Fastpass to get the return time you want, and it is nice not to have to criss-cross the park to maximize paper Fastpasses. I wish I could book Big Thunder twice in the same day for rides just after dark, and though I can’t do that as the limit on any single attraction is once per day in the FP+ system, I like the more relazxing experience Fastpass+ provides.

  29. Meg says

    @kalliyan1

    If you’re planning to be at Animal Kingdom from early afternoon until close (6 or 7pm), then you don’t need to save your FP+ for that park. Animal Kingdom really clears out in the last couple hours it’s open. Be sure to check times for things like the last Safari ride and the last showing of the Lion King and when the trails close, as these things all close early. But for the last hour at Animal Kingdom you’ll be able to walk onto everything in Dinoland without any waits, including Dinosaur, and you’ll be able to ride Everest over and over, to your heart’s content.

    Me, I’d use my FP+ at any other park *but* Animal Kingdom.

  30. Meg says

    @Mark

    So many caps. So many exclamations marks.

    When I read your comment, in my head I pictured you screaming at your computer. Hope you didn’t post it from work!

  31. Angela says

    First off, I shouldn’t be reading your blog while on a conference call…however…I laughed out loud when you talked about getting on (and almost falling off) Space Mountain. I had to pretend to choke to cover my blunder. Thanks for another awesome post.

  32. Molly says

    Awesome, thank you! The delirious, frantic posts over on the DIS regarding FP+ were starting to make my head spin. Our trip is coming up and this post confirmed that my fears were unfounded! Call me crazy but I like the idea of scheduling ahead of time and not traipsing back and forth to collect legacy FP’s (Test Track and Soarin’, I’m looking at you!)

    So this was MLK weekend and still look at what you accomplished. Touring right at park opening is the way to go, regardless of the time of year. I will say that the crowd pics were a little off putting around 2pm, so many people.

    I thought your pic with Rapunzel was nice! I can’t speak for what she may have been thinking though! I liked the fake niece story, totally believable. Speaking of characters, do you think it’s feasible to put off Merida until 10am? We’re planning to be at Disney the last week of January. I have a little girl who’s wild over her but I don’t want to spend too much time waiting, because I’m just that nice of a mother 😉 I may or may not have already told her that Elsa and Anna had to return to Norway and won’t be at Disney…

  33. MandaM says

    @ Julia,

    The reason you couldn’t get a FP+ reservation for Be Our Guest is because reservations aren’t available for your dates yet, not because it’s full. As Josh mentioned in the post, reservations won’t open up until a month or so from your trip. Try back closer to your trip and you should be able to get something. I’m waiting for March to open up – likely around mid-February.

  34. Jenn says

    Stop yelling at Josh Mark! K anyway, this was such a great post, i was going to FP+ Belle first thing after my dd BBB 8am ressie but i will definatly just go to Pan, then Ariel m&g and ride, then cinn buns at Gastons to eat on the way to Small World then Mansion. But if the Mines coaster is no wait at 9am then that is first thing!! :) if its open!! Fingers crossed!! Unless I FP+ the coaster for around 5pm when we head back to the park? Oh i wonder how well this will go on busy Sat June 28th?

  35. Cameron says

    From my experience when we were there during Christmas, several of the attractions that added FP+ that didn’t have it previously (Pirates, IASW, GMR, etc) their standby lines looked physically longer but were just as short as usual. The reason is because there is physically less space now in those lines for stand by since the queues were re-configured to accommodate FP. So those attractions are having to use more extended queues and what not than before. Pirates was very good about sending standby riders to both sides at the FP merge point, so both sides were sending out full boats.

  36. Frank D says

    If I walked past POTC and saw a 45 minutes wait, I’d leave the park immediately. Holy crap! Crazy about the Tinkerbell Line. I’ve waited 45 minutes an a pretty mild day before.

  37. Sarah says

    Between the awkward princess photos and Space Mountain – Josh, I’m so touched by your commitment to providing your public with hard-hitting real-life data. I’m practically verklempt. Except I’m mostly giggling.

  38. Mandy W says

    Great post! We were at Disney in December, and I’m still enjoying keeping up on the latest news. We weren’t able to get a FP+ at Be Our Guest during our visit, but I really wanted to eat there, so on a Wednesday (low crowds), we showed up at 10:30am. I was very surprised that we waited only about 10-15 minutes to get inside and order. So, if you aren’t able to get the FP+, get there when they open or a bit earlier. Maybe you will get the same pixie dust we did! It sure is a fun place to eat.

    We really took advantage of FASTPASS, FP+, and Rider Swap while we were there, allowing our 7-year-old to ride Expedition Everest 8 times in 2 days, and Space Mountain 5 times in a row. We also really liked FP+, so that we didn’t have to cross the park unless we really wanted to. That being said, you are right, Josh; although we might have had a slightly disappointed girl on our hands if she hadn’t been able to ride over and over, we would have been able to ride other things that we ended up missing (i.e. the Riverboat, Tom Sawyer Island, Finding Nemo show at AK, etc.). Now, since we are not going to be going back anytime soon, I’m glad that we were able to use FASTPASS. But it seems like FP+ will work out well, maybe with some tweaking. You are right about getting there in early morning – that is even more crucial now, with legacy FASTPASS gone.

    @Molly, we got in line for Merida I think about 9:30am and the line was fine, maybe 10-15 minutes. That morning, she took a break shortly after we came in, but I think she must have been not feeling well or something, because the way the CMs were talking, it wasn’t the usual for her to have a break that early. All that to say, I think you’ll be fine going to Merida at 10. You’ll miss some prime ride-riding time, but that’s what we have to do for our Merida-loving little ones (ours is 4). :)

    It will be interesting to see how MyMagic+ unfolds! Everyone who is going soon, have fun!!

  39. Dawn H says

    Hey Josh…if we were going to be in MK on a EMH morning (4/22 crowd level 9) could we do Belle first and then follow the rest of your tour? (b/c I would really like to see Maurice’s cottage)..we have three days in MK so I can fuddle it a bit if I need…thanks!!

  40. Brad says

    Had me laughing with your description of how you explained that your niece was, in fact, “Sleeping… In Seattle…”

    Reading some of the discussion & analysis of the differences in wait times, it has me thinking that part of the adjustment in the overall environment with FP+, conceivably even the reasoning behind the proliferation of FP+ entrances at attractions that haven’t historically needed them, could be an expectation that with the new system limiting the ability of folks to focus exclusively on the headliners at the expense of the more quiet and neglected attractions, people would not be as inclined to be in the lines of the headliners, and more inclined to visit some things they didn’t previously do because they were only riding headliners, mostly with FPs. So the waits for the non-headliners has increased (to where some may consider using FPs for them, though that’s still maybe a stretch in most cases), and the waits for the headliners are (based on limited time and reports thus far) perhaps not as horrible as people have predicted – because everyone’s perception of the standby wait times has been colored for so long by the fact that a lot of FASTPASSes are being admitted ahead of a lot of the standby line.

    One might think of it like this: it’s probably the same number of visitors trying to ride and see things, so the overall average wait times aren’t going to go up as a result of FP+. It probably goes up for those who were the most efficient FP users who were exclusively riding with FP, and goes down for those at the other end of the spectrum who didn’t use it because they either didn’t understand it or thought they’d have to pay extra. And for those who made moderate use of FPs maybe the main effect is to shift a few of what would have been re-rides or different rides with FP to either riding the same rides standby with shorter than expected lines or riding things they have bypassed but might possibly enjoy. It does significantly change the game for planning – and this was why I was happy to get in our last visit in August before FP+ hit (and while I still had a good feel for how to plan it). I think it’s still do-able, but I’ll need to completely re-educate myself for the planning of a next trip, hopefully armed with plenty of information on what the expected times and crowd patterns end up being.

  41. Philside says

    Call me an optimist but I believe FP+ will be more than three one day AND hopper friendly! That said, those FP return lines looked a bit scary. We almost always stay off-site and if I need to spend an extra $100 on a FW campsite to in order to take full advantage of FP+ for my family’s enjoyment then so be it. Awesome posts, awesome site. Thank you, Josh!

  42. Bill M says

    The green flags mean some of the lines are so long and far from the attraction that they have a CM marking the spot to wait. When you see this at the people mover, run from the park.

  43. MaryEllen says

    Crack! that’s the sound of the proverbial whip! Please get moving on the character infused cheat sheet. Thanks to you, my touring day has the precision of a Swiss watch but my character day at MK looks like a big hot mess.

  44. Edward says

    FYI…the Be Our Guest FP+ is only for a pre-selected group. Per the site’s help section:

    https://beourguestlunch.disney.go.com/FAQ.aspx

    Where can I get a FASTPASS for Be Our Guest Restaurant?
    – Disney’s FASTPASS Service is not available at Be Our Guest Restaurant. We are testing our new FastPass+ service and Guests have been randomly selected in advance to be a part of that test. We are not able to accommodate additional test participants at this time.

    Why can’t I participate in the FastPass+ test at Be Our Guest Restaurant?
    – The FastPass+ test is limited to Guests who were randomly selected in advance. Any Guest can dine at Be Our Guest Restaurant for lunch as space is available.

  45. Peggy says

    As long as you’re staying onsite and you’ve got your reservation number, you can be part of the BOG “test.” It’s not unlike the disclaimer on MDE that says that FPP is still in the testing phase and you need to be selected to participate.

    The only catch is that you’ve got to be within the window where you can make a FPP for your dates. I was never “selected” and have made my FPP for our upcoming trip recently.

  46. Ellen says

    How busy was the day you went? I will be going the last week of January, and if we arrive for rope drop (9am), can we expect to accomplish around the same amount of things in the first two hours that you did?

  47. Emma says

    Josh is the sun and the moon and the stars! I knew there would be a work around. We went May ’13 and used legacy FP quite well. We were offsite and probably will be again when we return in a few years. I raised Rope Drop as was DH. We are raising DD the same way. 😉 As I watched the debate unfold on DIS, all I could think was “Josh will figure it out! Just wait!”

  48. Holly says

    Josh! I need you’re help! I am going to WDW in June with my family….my ENTIRE family. it is a family reunion type vacation and there are 5 families going with a total of 20 people (2 infants). I have been to WDW several times and was getting good a planning a day but I am worried about the FP+. How will my extended family be able to reserve their rides. One one day the moms may take the younger kids around FantasyLand while the dads take the teens to ride Space Mountain. The next day the dads may have toddler duty and the moms have teenager duty. How will we coordinate the FP+? Should we create one MyDisneyExperience Account for all 20 or can we coordinate different accounts.

  49. Mary Ann says

    Thanks for the update Josh. You mentioned Merida at the beginning. Where’s she meeting these days? Still over in the old Fairytale garden?

  50. travis faherty says

    Josh due to party size and budget we will be staying offsite and after hearing about FastPass+ I was worried but seems with your plan and with the low crowds you state it will be a 6(August 23) I feel we will have a great trip. Thanks for all the great advice.

  51. Jenna says

    It looks like they maybe limiting availability Fastpass+ now at Magic Kingdom. I tried switching my Jan 31st, enchanted tales with belle morning time slot for right after lunch and that wasn’t an option and I had no other fastpasses overlapping. So I tried replacing all of them, and option A gave me another selection and said no times were available for Enchanted Tales. ??

  52. Sarah says

    This is all super helpful! We are going to be at MK for one day on 4/16 when I’m sure it will be packed! We are staying offsite so no advance FP for us, at least as of now and have an 8:05am ADR at Cinderella’s Castle so I’m trying to determine if we need to send someone to a kiosk before breakfast for FP and how much we’ll be able to do after that in the morning w/out FP. I’m assuming done by 9:30am at the latest so hopefully still some shorter lines. We have a 6 and 2 yo, so only one of us will be riding bigger rides with the 6 yo and characters and smaller rides will probably be priority.

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